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Bare and tinned copper · grounding and bonding

Bare copper wire buyers in New York

Bare copper is the one wire family where the metal is the specification. No jacket, no compound, no color code — just temper, stranding and surface, and those three decide whether a coil is a grounding conductor or a weighed-in lot.

14 AWG – 500 kcmilBare and tinnedSolid and stranded
Wooden reels and banded coils of cable stored on timber pallets inside a steel-framed warehouse

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Quick answer

Bare copper is bought on three things: size and stranding, temper and surface, and whether the coil is clean enough to reuse. A banded coil of soft-drawn 4 AWG with a legible tag is a grounding conductor and is priced as one. A tangled, oxidised coil of mixed cut-offs is copper content, and is priced as metal.

Bare means nothing over the copper

Bare copper conductor is copper with no insulation, no jacket and no separator over it. That sounds like a trivial distinction and it is the whole product. Because there is no covering to identify, the conductor has to be specified by temper, stranding and surface finish, and each of those changes what the copper can be installed for.

Temper is the first split. Soft annealed copper to ASTM B3 is ductile enough to bend around a ground rod, a column or a service mast without cracking, which is why almost all grounding electrode conductor is soft drawn. Hard-drawn copper to ASTM B1 is stiff and springy; it holds a straight run and is used for overhead ground wire, guy bonds and applications where the conductor must stay taut rather than drape.

Stranding is the second. Solid conductor is common from 14 AWG to about 8 AWG, where a single wire is easy to route and terminate in a small lug. Above that, concentric-lay stranded conductor to ASTM B8 takes over: 7-strand in the smaller sizes, 19-strand through the middle of the range, 37-strand and 61-strand at 250 kcmil and above. Stranding makes the conductor flexible enough to pull and to form around equipment, and it is visible in any photograph of a cut end.

Wooden reels and banded coils of cable stored on timber pallets inside a steel-framed warehouse

Green insulation is not bare copper

This is the most common confusion on a grounding lot. A green conductor is an insulated conductor whose jacket happens to be green — usually THHN/THWN or XHHW-2. The green identifies it as an equipment grounding conductor under NEC 250.119, which reserves solid green, or green with one or more yellow stripes, for that purpose alone. No phase conductor and no neutral may be green.

The difference matters three ways. First, use: green insulated wire is a recognised equipment grounding conductor inside a raceway, and it is what an inspector expects to see pulled with feeder conductors. Bare copper serves a different set of roles — grounding electrode conductor to a rod or water pipe, bonding jumpers, ground rings — and in some installations the code requires an insulated conductor where bare would otherwise be acceptable, particularly in corrosive locations.

Second, handling: to use green insulated wire as bare copper, somebody has to strip it, and stripping 4 AWG or 250 kcmil by hand is slow, damaging work. Third, value: green insulated cable with an intact jacket and readable print should be sold as insulated building wire, on its own terms, not folded into a bare copper lot where it will be valued only for contained metal. Keep the two piles apart before anyone photographs them.

Where bare copper actually lands

Grounding electrode conductors connect the service or the source to earth. The electrode may be a driven rod, a metal water pipe, building steel, a concrete-encased electrode in the footing, or a buried ground ring, and NEC Table 250.66 sizes the conductor by the size of the service conductors. On a small service that can be 8 AWG copper; on a large service it climbs through 4, 2, 1/0 and beyond. That table is the reason a bare copper lot contains so much 6, 4, 2 and 1/0 in solid and 7-strand.

Equipment grounding conductors run alongside a circuit and provide the low-impedance fault path. Bonding jumpers tie metal parts that must sit at the same potential: water and gas piping, structural steel, cable tray, busbar enclosures, elevator rails and skid frames. In utility and industrial work the same material reappears as counterpoise and grid conductor around a substation, where 2/0, 250 kcmil and 500 kcmil soft-drawn stranded copper are buried in crushed stone and bonded to every structure.

Lightning protection, transit and telecom add smaller but very clean material: 2 AWG and 1/0 bare copper down conductors, ground ring conductor around antenna structures, and the heavy bonding conductor used in subway and rail traction grounding. All of it arrives on site as coils, and most of it leaves as coils when a project closes.

What decides what a coil is worth

Copper content sets the floor and condition sets the ceiling. Because the metal is exposed, bare copper is the easiest wire family in which to see whether a coil has been stored properly: bright salmon-colored copper with a clean surface has been indoors, and green verdigris with black oxide has not. Oxidised copper still contains the same metal, but it is no longer a conductor somebody wants to install, so the reuse premium disappears.

Tinning holds value better than most sellers expect. Tinned conductor to ASTM B33 is specified for damp, corrosive and marine locations, and it is bought by plants and contractors who need exactly that. Tinned surfaces dull to gray-brown rather than green, and a clean tinned coil in original packaging is a reusable product rather than a weighed lot.

  • Size and stranding stated plainly — 4 AWG solid, or 250 kcmil 37-strand, not just 'ground wire'
  • Temper: soft annealed and hard drawn are not interchangeable and are not priced the same
  • Surface: bright bare, tinned, or oxidised, described honestly
  • Package: original banded coil with a tag is worth more than a loose, tangled coil
  • Contamination: solder, paint, steel ties, attached lugs and insulation remnants all reduce yield
  • Weight per coil, and the count of coils in the lot

Specification

What a buyer needs to know about this cable

Every row below changes what a lot is worth. If the reel tag is gone, the jacket print and a cut end usually answer most of it.

Missing detail is not a problem — say what is missing and the review works from photographs.

Specification checklist
MaterialElectrolytic tough pitch copper, soft annealed to ASTM B3 or hard drawn to ASTM B1
StrandingSolid, or concentric-lay Class B stranded to ASTM B8: 7, 19, 37 and 61 strand
Size range14 AWG through 500 kcmil; 6, 4, 2, 1/0 and 250 kcmil dominate grounding work
SurfaceBare bright copper, or tinned to ASTM B33 for damp and corrosive locations
FormsCoils, spools, returnable reels and straight cut lengths
Common usesGrounding electrode conductor, equipment grounding conductor, bonding jumpers, ground rings, counterpoise
IdentificationCoil tag or spool label with size, temper and weight; otherwise measured strand count and diameter
Condition signalsGreen verdigris, black oxide, kinks, solder or paint contamination, steel ties left in the coil

Constructions

Bare copper lots we review

The same metal arrives in very different packages, and the package is most of the difference in value.

01

Banded grounding coils

Factory coils of soft-drawn 6, 4 or 2 AWG solid, still banded with the size and weight on the tag. The best category: it can go straight into a contractor's truck for a grounding package.

02

Large-size stranded reels

250 and 500 kcmil 37-strand on returnable reels, often substation or service-entrance surplus. Valued on remaining length, reel condition and whether the conductor has been dragged.

03

Tinned conductor

Tinned to ASTM B33 for damp and corrosive service. Clean, boxed tinned copper is a specification product; dull or contaminated tinned copper drops back to metal value.

04

Green insulated grounding wire

Not bare copper, and should be sold separately. THHN/THWN or XHHW-2 in green is reviewed as insulated building wire, on size, type and footage rather than on copper weight.

05

Demolition cut lengths

Conductor cut out of a building or a substation during removal, often with lugs, sweat fittings or paint on it. Reviewed on usable straight lengths and clean ends.

06

Mixed grounding and bonding stock

A pallet of part coils, offcuts and jumper lengths from an electrical contractor. Sorted by size and temper it is worth more; left as one tangle it is a weight conversation.

New York

Bare copper in the New York market

New York produces bare copper from three directions. Utility substation work releases grid and counterpoise conductor when a yard is rebuilt or a grounding study calls for more copper. Building work releases grounding electrode conductor whenever a service is replaced, which in New York City means every major mechanical or electrical upgrade in an older building. Demolition and plant closure release bonding and grounding material mixed with everything else.

The demand side is just as steady. Contractors installing services, plants adding grounding for drives and switchgear, and telecom and transit projects all buy bare copper by size and temper. That two-way traffic is why a clean coil can be resold as conductor while an oxidised one cannot.

What helps a New York lot move

  • Size, temper and stranding on every coil — a photograph of the tag is enough
  • Bare or tinned, stated plainly, with the two kept separate
  • Approximate weight per coil and total coil count
  • Whether the coil is banded and tagged, or loose and tangled
  • Storage: indoors, covered outdoors, or on the ground
Wooden cable reels stacked on their sides in an outdoor yard under a flat gray sky
Bare copper is usually delivered in coils rather than on reels, but it is stored beside them. Keeping coils banded, tagged and off the ground preserves the reuse premium.

Seller questions

Questions sellers ask

Is green grounding wire the same as bare copper?

No. Green wire is an insulated conductor, normally THHN/THWN or XHHW-2, and the green jacket identifies it as an equipment grounding conductor under NEC 250.119. It is a different product from bare copper, it is installed differently, and it should be sold as insulated building wire rather than mixed into a bare copper lot where it would be valued only for contained metal.

Do you buy tinned copper conductor?

Yes. Tinned conductor to ASTM B33 is bought on the same basis as bare copper with an allowance for the tinning, which is a specification advantage in damp, corrosive and marine locations. Clean, still-boxed tinned copper holds a reuse premium; dull or contaminated tinned copper is reviewed on copper content.

How is bare copper valued — by weight or as wire?

Both, depending on condition. A banded coil of a standard size, in bright condition, with a legible tag, is a grounding conductor and is priced against what a contractor would pay for that size. Tangled, heavily oxidised or contaminated conductor is priced on copper content, which is a lower and more volatile basis.

Can several sizes be sent as one lot?

Yes. Mixed sizes are sorted and reviewed individually, and the total is built up from the sizes that matter. A lot that has already been separated by size and temper reviews faster and usually returns more than the same material in one unlabelled pile, because each coil can be matched to a use.

What should I send with a bare copper enquiry?

The size and temper of each coil, whether it is bare or tinned, the approximate weight, how it is packed, and where it is stored. Photographs of the coil tag, the coil itself and a cut end answer most of the remaining questions, and a single wide photograph of the storage area tells a buyer how much handling the lot will need.

Next step

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Include the storage city, how it is stored and what can reach it. If you have photographs of reel tags or jacket print, send them with the enquiry.

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