
Transmission · backbone overhead and urban cable
230 kV cable buyers in New York
Two lots share the 230 kV label and have almost nothing else in common. One is conductor on a reel and hardware in a crate. The other is a welded steel pipe full of oil with cable inside it.
- New York State
- Documented lots
- Reels and cut lengths
- Buyer review
Sell this cable
Send the construction, size and footage. Photographs can follow.
Prefer to talk? 614-715-3047 · saleselectricalbuyers@gmail.com
An overhead 230 kV lot is bundled conductor, spacers, shield wire and structure hardware, and much of it can go back into a line. A pipe-type 230 kV lot is a metal recovery and disposal job: copper conductor, steel pipe, dielectric fluid and potheads, with almost no reuse as cable. Quoting the two at one price is the commonest mistake at this voltage.
One voltage class, two unrelated assets
230 kV is the upstate backbone class in New York: it sits under the 345 kV bulk system and above the 115 and 138 kV network, and it carries power across the long distances between load centers. Almost all of that mileage is overhead, on steel lattice or tubular structures, with bundled conductor and an optical shield wire.
Where a 230 kV line has to enter a dense area it goes underground, and underground at this voltage has meant pipe-type cable for most of the last century. A steel pipe is welded in lengths, coated, buried, cathodically protected and filled with dielectric fluid under pressure; the cable is pulled into the pipe and the assembly becomes one sealed system.
The consequence for a seller is simple. One lot is a materials-handling problem with genuine reuse value. The other is a demolition problem with metal value and a fluid-disposal cost, and the two should be separated before anyone quotes.

The overhead 230 kV lot
Overhead 230 kV conductor is usually two sub-conductors per phase in the 795 to 954 kcmil range, held apart by bundle spacers and supported by suspension assemblies with armour rods. The bundle exists to control corona and surge impedance as much as to add capacity, which is why sub-conductor size is not simply scaled up when load grows — a reconductor may keep the same bundle geometry and change the conductor.
What a buyer can reuse from this lot is most of it, conditional on identification: conductor with a tag and footage, spacers and dampers as assemblies, armour rods, insulator strings in composite or glass, and OPGW with the fiber count known. What cannot be reused is conductor cut down at every structure, hardware bent during takedown, and anything that sat in a coastal yard long enough for the galvanising to go.
- Sub-conductor size and stranding, per drum rather than per lot
- Bundle spacers counted as sets, since they are useless individually
- OPGW fiber count and whether the tube ends were sealed
- Insulator type, because composite and porcelain have different reuse markets
- Structure hardware separated from conductor — bolts and plates are bought by weight, fittings are not
Pipe-type 230 kV in an urban setting
A pipe-type circuit is a pressure vessel as much as an electrical asset. The cable inside is paper-insulated, usually copper conductor, taped and impregnated, and it lives in a steel pipe filled with degassed dielectric fluid held at pressure by a pumping plant. Potheads at each end bring the conductor out through a porcelain or composite housing, and the pipe carries a coating and a cathodic protection system along the whole run.
When that circuit is retired, what remains is coated steel pipe, cable inside it, fluid to drain and dispose of, and terminal equipment. Copper is the main value and it is a real quantity, because 230 kV pipe-type conductors are large. Steel is worth recovering. Fluid is a cost rather than an asset, and potheads are worth more as spares than as scrap when they are intact.
Almost none of it returns to service as cable. Paper-insulated pipe-type cable that has carried load for decades, been drained and pulled out is not a reusable cable product; the handling alone damages the dielectric. Anyone quoting it as cable is quoting an inspection they cannot complete.
Station bus, jumpers and the parts people forget
A 230 kV substation lot is often worth more than the line material that came with it. Aluminum tube bus — 6063-T6 tube in schedule 40 or heavier wall — is bought in 20 to 40 ft lengths with welded or bolted fittings, and it is expensive new. Supports, post insulators, expansion joints, flexible braid and the clamps that join it all carry reuse value if they were removed rather than cut.
Jumpers are the other half. Short ACSR or ACSS lengths from conductor-to-equipment connections, often with compression terminals already fitted, are the kind of thing swept into a scrap pile and then bought new for the next job. A station lot dismantled carefully, with fittings bagged and labeled by assembly, is worth several times one that was cut apart and loaded with a grapple.
| Aspect | Overhead 230 kV lot | Pipe-type 230 kV lot |
|---|---|---|
| What it is | Bare bundled conductor, shield wire, hardware | Welded steel pipe, paper cable, dielectric fluid |
| Main value | Reusable conductor and assemblies | Copper content, steel pipe, terminal spares |
| Reuse potential | High, if tagged and straight | Very low as cable, high as metal and spares |
| Hidden cost | Freight on heavy reels | Fluid removal and disposal, pipe handling |
| Deciding document | Drum tag with footage and code name | Oil test history and as-found drawings |
Specification
What a buyer needs to know about this cable
Every row below changes what a lot is worth. If the reel tag is gone, the jacket print and a cut end usually answer most of it.
Missing detail is not a problem — say what is missing and the review works from photographs.
| Voltage class | 230 kV three-phase transmission, 133 kV to ground |
|---|---|
| Overhead conductor | ACSR or ACSS at 795 and 954 kcmil, commonly two sub-conductors per phase |
| Pipe-type cable | Paper-insulated copper conductor in welded steel pipe, fluid-filled and pressurised |
| Station material | Aluminum tube bus, ACSR jumpers, flexible braid, connectors and clamps |
| Standards | ASTM B232 and B856 for conductor, ASTM B241 for tube, AEIC CS2 for pipe-type cable |
| Pipe sizes | Nominal 5 to 8 in steel pipe depending on cable and circuit |
| Fluid | Mineral oil or synthetic dielectric fluid, held under pressure by a pumping plant |
| Reuse signals | Drum tags, footage, oil test history, cathodic protection records, pothead condition |
Constructions
230 kV lots we review
The voltage label covers several different things, and each is valued on its own facts.
Bundled overhead conductor
Two sub-conductors per phase in 795 or 954 kcmil, on tagged drums or in removed sections with clamp marks.
Pipe-type cable and pipe
Steel pipe with paper-insulated copper cable inside, drained of fluid. Priced on copper, steel and the cost of disposal.
Station tube bus
Aluminum tube in 20 to 40 ft lengths with fittings, supports and post insulators. One of the most reusable items in a station lot.
Jumpers and connections
Short conductor lengths with terminals fitted, plus flexible braid and clamps. Bought new constantly and discarded constantly.
Potheads and terminations
Terminal housings from a retired pipe-type circuit. Worth more as spares to an owner of the same design than as scrap metal.
Shield wire and OPGW
Optical or conventional static wire from the same structures, valued on fiber count and reel condition.
New York
230 kV material in the New York market
New York's 230 kV circuits run the length of the state, and the work on them is project-driven: structure replacements, reconductors, breaker and bus rebuilds at the stations that connect them. Each project releases material into a store, and the store eventually clears it.
The urban end of the class behaves differently. Pipe-type circuits are retired whole rather than in part drums, and their disposal is planned rather than incidental — which means material usually arrives with drawings and an oil history, and the seller should keep both. A pipe-type lot with as-found drawings and fluid records is a straightforward transaction; without them it is a sampling exercise.
What helps a New York lot move
- Overhead and pipe-type material in separate lots, never one price
- For conductor: code name, sub-conductor size, footage and drum condition
- For pipe-type: pipe size, run length, fluid type and any test history
- Station material bagged and labeled by assembly, not loose in a bin
- Any drawings, as-builts or oil records kept with the material they describe

Seller questions
Questions sellers ask
Can pipe-type 230 kV cable be reused?
In practice, almost never as cable. The dielectric is paper impregnated with fluid, and once the pipe is opened, drained and the cable pulled, the insulation has been exposed to air and mechanically worked. The realistic outcome is copper recovery, steel recovery and disposal of the fluid, with terminal equipment sold as spares if it is intact.
What is worth salvaging from a 230 kV substation?
Aluminum tube bus, fittings, post insulators, flexible braid, jumpers with terminals fitted, and any terminal housings in good condition. These are bought new for every station job, so a carefully dismantled set has a ready use. Cut-apart bus and loose bolts are worth their metal and nothing more.
How is a 230 kV overhead lot priced differently from a 138 kV one?
Mostly by bundle geometry and structure hardware. At 230 kV the conductor is usually two sub-conductors per phase with spacers, so the lot contains more assemblies and fewer single drums. The conductor itself is priced the same way: code name, footage and condition.
Do you need the oil records for a pipe-type lot?
They help enormously. Fluid type, test history and as-found drawings tell a buyer what is in the pipe and how it has been maintained, which sets the handling and disposal plan. Without them the lot has to be sampled before it can be quoted, and that delay is reflected in what anyone will pay.
Is 230 kV cable ever extruded rather than paper-insulated?
Yes, on newer work. Extruded dielectric cable at 230 kV is single-conductor with a heavy wall, installed in duct or direct burial rather than in a welded pipe. It is a different asset from pipe-type: shorter pulling lengths, a jacket to inspect, and a real reuse question rather than a metal question.
Keep reading
Related pages
- High-voltage cable buyersThe parent category for transmission material
- HPFF cable buyersHigh-pressure fluid-filled pipe systems in detail
- 345 kV cable buyersThe bulk class above this one
- 138 kV cable buyersThe class beneath it upstate
- Substation wire and bus buyersTube bus, jumpers and station cable
- Transmission line cable buyersOverhead line material as a category
City pages
Where this turns up in New York
Next step
Send the lot details
Include the storage city, how it is stored and what can reach it. If you have photographs of reel tags or jacket print, send them with the enquiry.
Send the lot
One desk reviews every lot that arrives.
Prefer to talk? 614-715-3047 · saleselectricalbuyers@gmail.com