
Transmission · upstate overhead line material
138 kV cable buyers in New York
A 138 kV lot is usually the by-product of a capacity upgrade rather than a retirement. What comes off the structures is old ACSR; what sits in the store afterwards is new conductor that never got strung.
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At 138 kV the material is mostly bare overhead conductor plus the hardware that held it. Value turns on the code name, the footage on the drum, whether the tag survived and whether the conductor was tension-strung and is still straight. Weight tells you almost nothing: two drums of the same size can differ several-fold in worth because one matches a live line and the other does not.
Where 138 kV fits in the upstate network
Upstate New York carries a mix of transmission classes rather than one clean hierarchy. There is a broad 115 kV and 138 kV band, 230 kV above it on the main corridors, and 345 kV on the bulk system. Because 115 and 138 kV behave so similarly on a drum, the same reel can be described either way by whoever is clearing the store, and the mislabel is common enough that a tag is worth more than an opinion.
Material also crosses state lines. A contractor working in Pennsylvania, New Jersey or Ohio will bring 138 kV drums home to a New York yard, and a New York utility will sell conductor bought for a project that was later deferred. That is normal, and it is why the buying question here is about construction and footage rather than about whose name is on the purchase order.

Reconductoring is what produces the lot
Most 138 kV surplus starts with a thermal limit. A line built decades ago for a lighter load reaches its rating, and the fix is new conductor with more aluminum, a different core, or an annealed-aluminum construction that can run hotter without losing sag. ACSS — concentric-lay-stranded aluminum conductor, coated steel supported — is the common upgrade: the aluminum is fully annealed, the steel core carries essentially all the tension, and the conductor can operate at temperatures that would soften ordinary ACSR.
The project then produces two streams. New conductor arrives in full drums and leaves part drums behind — the last reel of each size, a drum that failed a tension check, a spare kept against damage. Old conductor comes down in sections: pulled off the structures in the lengths between tension sites, cut at the dead-ends, and coiled with the splices still in it.
Both streams are worth reviewing and they are valued differently. A part drum of new 795 kcmil ACSS with a factory end and a tag is a line-store item. Removed ACSR is a length-and-condition conversation, because it has been tensioned, clamped and pulled over sheaves, and every clamp mark is a place where it cannot be reused.
- New surplus: factory-sealed ends, original tag, full or near-full drum
- Removed conductor: number of clean ends and length between splices
- Splice count, because every compression splice is a cut point for reuse
- Whether it came off in one pull or was cut down at each structure
- Any ACSS in the lot identified as such, since it is not interchangeable with ACSR
River and valley crossings
New York's upstate geography forces a lot of long-span work. The Hudson, the Mohawk, the Delaware, the Susquehanna, the Genesee and the Ausable all have crossings where the span runs to hundreds of feet and the conductor is sized for tension rather than for current. Those spans use the larger end of the range, sometimes a compact or trapezoidal strand to keep the diameter down, and hardware that a routine suspension assembly does not include.
Crossing conductor is a distinct item in the surplus stream. The drums are shorter because the span length sets the order, the conductor may be a size that appears nowhere else on the system, and the fittings that came off with it are specific to that structure. Selling a crossing lot as generic 138 kV wire throws away the one thing that makes it useful: it is the right conductor for exactly one kind of span.
Ice, wind and the loading district on the drawing
Overhead design in New York is governed by the NESC loading districts — heavy, medium and light — and by the owner's own criteria on top of them. The North Country and the higher ground of the Adirondacks and Tug Hill sit in the heavy district, where radial ice and the wind that comes with it govern tension and structure loading. Much of the rest of upstate is designed to the medium district.
This matters to a buyer in a specific way. Conductor does not carry a loading rating; the line does. So a drum cannot be rejected because it came from a heavy-ice district, but the hardware that came with it can be checked against the district it will serve, and a seller who says where the material came from saves a round of questions.
Why the tag outranks the scale at this voltage
Conductor at 138 kV is bought to match a line, and a line is defined by its code name, its tension and its hardware. A recycler weighs it and pays for aluminum and steel. A line buyer needs to know that this drum is Drake and that drum is Dove, because the two are not interchangeable on the same structure even though they look alike on a reel.
The tag carries the code name, the footage, the standard and usually the purchase order, and that chain is what turns metal back into material. Where the tag is gone, the printed legend on the outer strands plus a measured diameter and a strand count will usually recover the identification — and a drum identified that way is still worth far more than the same drum sold by weight.
Specification
What a buyer needs to know about this cable
Every row below changes what a lot is worth. If the reel tag is gone, the jacket print and a cut end usually answer most of it.
Missing detail is not a problem — say what is missing and the review works from photographs.
| Voltage class | 138 kV three-phase transmission, 79.7 kV to ground |
|---|---|
| Conductor | ACSR or ACSS, 477 through 1,272 kcmil; 26/7 and 45/7 are the usual stranding |
| Common code names | Hawk, Dove, Drake, Bittern — each fixes size and stranding |
| Standards | ASTM B232 for ACSR, ASTM B856 for ACSS, ASTM B498 for the steel core wire |
| Drum lengths | 10,000 to 15,000 ft on transmission reels; crossing drums are shorter and heavier |
| Hardware | Armour rods, suspension and dead-end assemblies, dampers, bundle spacers where bundled |
| Shield wire | OPGW or conventional static wire, often replaced in the same outage |
| Condition signals | Kinks from unreeling, clamp marks, core rust at cut ends, splice count |
Constructions
138 kV material we review
Upstate lots split into new conductor, removed conductor and the hardware that connected them.
Reconductor part drums
The last reel of a new conductor order, factory-sealed at one end, tagged, and usually with enough footage to restring a short section.
Removed ACSR
Conductor taken off during an upgrade, cut at the dead-ends and carrying clamp marks. Valued on clean lengths between splices.
Crossing-span conductor
Large sizes ordered for one river or valley span. Short drums, specific hardware, and useful only to a buyer who knows what it was for.
ACSS and high-temperature conductor
Annealed aluminum over a coated steel core, bought for capacity. It has to be identified as ACSS, because it is not a substitute for ACSR in the same fitting.
Station and riser cable
Shielded cable from the substation end of the same project, where the overhead line terminates in a pothead or a stress cone.
Line hardware and OPGW
Armour rods, dampers, assemblies and optical shield wire removed or left over from the same outage.
New York
138 kV conductor in the New York market
Upstate transmission work is steady rather than spectacular: a reconductor here, a structure replacement there, a crossing rebuilt after an inspection finding. Each project leaves a small quantity of conductor in a store, and stores clear material when space runs out rather than when the market is good — which is why lots appear with no relationship to the price of aluminum.
The seller's advantage is documentation. A store that keeps the tag with the drum, notes the footage pulled and does not blend removed conductor with new stock is holding material a line contractor can use, and it will be bought as material rather than as recovery.
What helps a New York lot move
- Code name and stranding for every drum, written on the tag or measured
- Footage as it stands now, not as originally ordered
- New versus removed, kept in separate stacks
- Where the conductor came from — line, voltage and district if known
- Hardware and OPGW listed as separate items rather than described as extras

Seller questions
Questions sellers ask
How do I confirm a conductor is 138 kV rather than 115 kV?
You cannot, from the conductor alone — the voltage is a property of the line, not of the wire. What you can confirm is the code name, the stranding and the size, and those tell a buyer what the drum can be used for. The reel tag, the purchase order or the project record is what ties material to a voltage class.
Is removed 138 kV conductor worth buying?
Yes, when the lengths between splices are usable and the conductor is straight. Removed conductor has been tensioned, run over sheaves and clamped, so it is valued on clean ends and clamp damage rather than on the original drum length. A long clean pull can go back on a line; short pieces with several splices are recovery material.
What makes ACSS different from ACSR on a reel?
The aluminum. ACSS uses fully annealed strands over a coated steel core, so the core carries the tension and the conductor can run at higher temperature without excessive sag. It looks similar to ACSR, weighs about the same, and behaves differently in a fitting — which is why it needs to be identified rather than assumed.
Do river-crossing drums sell separately?
They should. Crossing conductor is ordered for one span, in a size that may appear nowhere else on the system, with hardware specific to that structure. A buyer who knows the span it was bought for can match it to another crossing; a buyer who does not will price it as ordinary conductor.
Does ice loading change what a drum is worth?
Not the conductor, but the hardware around it. Loading districts set design tension and structure strength for a line, not a rating on the wire. What changes with the district is whether the assemblies, insulators and fittings that came with the lot suit the line they will go back onto.
Keep reading
Related pages
- ACSR conductor buyersCode names, stranding and core condition
- Transmission line cable buyersConductor with hardware and shield wire
- OPGW fiber buyersShield wire replaced in the same outage
- 115 kV cable buyersThe sibling voltage downstate
- 230 kV cable buyersThe next class up on the backbone
- 69 kV cable buyersSubtransmission beneath this band
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